Water cooling?

[cornelje]

Does anyone have experience with it? Im thinking of putting together a setup for overclocking, but I have a few questions.

How many case fans should you run, with an external cooling system? I will have waterblocks on cpu, gpu, and motherboard. So how much heat is actually going to be in the case?

And for my other question, how do you keep the water lines from sweating? Seems like you would have alot of condensation on them.

[iluvtruenos]

I had a WC setup a few years back.

It leaked and killed my P4 3.0.

I was pissed.

If you want a good WC setup though, I suggest the

Bigwater SE from Thermaltake.

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=331979&pfp=srch1

I can get that for you for $120 shipped.

[bubba069]

here are some links that I have been given by some folks that run water.

External Water Cooling Kits
•Thermaltake Aquarius III
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/aquarius/a1681.htm

• Koolance Exos and Exos Aluminum
http://www.koolance.com/products/product.html?code=EXT-A03&category_id=2

•Corsair Hydrocool 200
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/hydrocool.html

•Xice Externalcool Kit
http://www.xice.de/eng/index_e.htm

•Zalman Reserator
http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=63&code=021


Drive Bay Kits
•Cooler Master Aquagate
http://www.coolermaster.com/

•Kingwin AWC-1 Arctic Liquid Cooler System
http://www.kingwin.com/pdut_detail.asp?CateID=31&ID=187

•Evercool 201 Water Cooling Kit 5.25"
http://www.evercool.com.tw/index_eng.htm



Internal Kits
•Globalwin Jeti and Silent Stream
http://www.globalwin.com.tw/products/water_cooling/index.html

•Asetek Waterchill
http://www.asetek.com/default.asp?showPage=startside.asp&param=sideid&myvalue=14&

•Swiftech H2O 8600 P and H2O 22600 Extreme
http://www.swiftnets.com/

•Innovatech Innovacool Rev 3 and XXS Watercooling Kit
http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?

•Topspeed 3X Watercooling kit
http://www.topspeedtech.com

•Danger Den- various customizable kits
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/kits.asp

this is the one I'm thinking about getting -> http://www.voyeurmods.com/index.php?action=item&id=1600&prevaction=category&previd=2&prevstart=0

as long as you take your time and check and double check, test for leaks, check again you will be fine. most guys run distiled water not tap water, distiled had less ability to conduct electricity. there are other options for non conductive fliud but that stuff isn't cheep.

as for the rest of the case, you may still need one fan in the front of the case to draw air in then the fans on the radiator will pull it out.

dont think condinsation is an issue due to the fact the water doesnt get that cold, unless you run it through a chiller but I havent seen a set up like that. they do it, I just havent seen one first hand.

or you can do what these guys did with veggi oil -> http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/09/strip_out_the_fans/

[penguinrusty]

If you don't want to risk leaking at all, I would suggest an external one. Otherwise, there are some good internal ones, but they're really bulky.

[TLLama]

Definitly have an intake fan and outtake regardless, becuase you still have your hardrive, any sort of pci/agp, your northbridge, and ram, and all those combined can creat quite a bit of heat.

[cornelje]

I have a 120mm exhaust on the rear, a pci blower fan, an intake side case fan, 2 psu fans, and 2 small pushers in the front.

Im thinking of keeping this fan setup, its pretty quiet. Since I am decent at working aluminum, I am thinking of building an external case, and using a small heater core and 2 120mm fans. I will order the cooling blocks (dont trust myself on those) and probobly use this pump from dangerden http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=178&cat=0&page=1

What kind of idle cpu temps are you guys seeing with w/c?

[penguinrusty]

I know Westoz was getting something like 25-30 degrees celcius under full load with a heavily oc's processor...I don't remember exactly.

[cornelje]

Wow thats amazing. My full load temps get to 47*C, with a very small overclock (200mhz)

[penguinrusty]

Are you planning on water cooling your GPU too, or just your cpu?

[cornelje]

Well i plan on getting another 6600gt (at $100 a pop I cant afford not to) but yeah I will water cool the gpu as well, and possibly the motherboard. The fan in my 6600 quit last night, was playing cs:s and I was getting all kinds of artifacts. Checked the temp and it was at 85*c! I dont trust fans anymore.

[WESTOZ racer]

Mine was DIY, but you can get kits that are equal to the performance of diy setups. Currently, with just a single 120.1 radiator and cpu/Gpu blocks, full load on the cpu comes out to under 40*c on a 900MHz (yes, i said 900MHz :p) overclock. Gpu is about 46 under load.

I suggest looking into the Swiftec extreme duty Storm or Apogee kits. They are *THE* highest performance kit atm. It may be more expensive, but you're guaranteed perfect results with a full manual and mounting hardware for everything.

On the topic DO NOT buy thermaltake's line of Bigwater kits. I repeat...DO NOT buy em. The pumps fail more often than cats take naps...the performance is horrid...poor quality cpu heat-exchangers lead to leaking, corrosion, clouding of the coolant...the tubing is smaller than my pinkie finger. All adds up to a rather expensive heap of 5hit.

[cornelje]

Wow thanks for the advice westoz. 900MHz?!?! Amazing. Equally amazing is your temps. I will take your suggestions on the kits, and shop around.